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Posted: 24 Oct 2008, 07:24
by Mary Hinge
erutlucorgga";p="989074 wrote:Er. How on Earth (or in space) is this goofball Kirk?
He looks like "the jerk" out of an Apatow movie

err...'cos they're trying to attract a bigger female audience?

Posted: 26 Oct 2008, 09:02
by Mobiesque
One of the books not pictured is a classic called 'Enterprise Zones - Critical Positions on Star Trek'. Contents are as follows:
Part One - Centering Subjectivities
1 "A Part of Myself No Man Should Ever See"
Reading Captain Kirk's Multiple Masculinities
2 When the Body Speaks
Deanna Troi's Tenuous Authority and the Rationalization of Federation Superiority in Star Trek: The Next Generation Rape Narratives
3 Liminality
Worf as Metonymic Signifier of Racial, Cultural and National Differences
4 Dating Data
Miscegenation in Star Trek: The Next Generation
Part Two - Manufacturing Hegemonies
5 Cyborgs in Utopia
The Problem of Radical Difference in Star Trek: The Next Generation
6 A Fabricated Space
Assimilating the Individual on Star Trek: The Next Generation
7 For The Greater Good
Trilateralism and Hegemony in Star Trek: The Next Generation
Part Three - Producing Pleasures
9 Boys in Space
Star Trek, Latency and the Neverending Story
10 Enjoyment (in) Between Fathers
General Chang as Homoerotic Enablement in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
11 "All Good Things..."
The End of Star Trek: The Next Generation, The End of Camelot--The End of the Tale about Woman as Handmaid to Patriarchy as Superman
12 Weaving the Cyborg Shroud
Mourning and Deferral in Star Trek: The Next Generation
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 04:42
by lol-o-caust
Is it true that if you lock one thousand monkeys in a warehouse with one thousand typewriters, sooner or later, they will come up with the works of William Shatner?
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 06:55
by Mary Hinge
No. It's one monkey.
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 07:58
by lol-o-caust
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 08:41
by Mobiesque
Reading through / watching some stuff related to the new film (which subsequently makes me hate it even more.
Come on, the guy wants to put the 'star wars' into star trek. What a cunt.) I came across some great ShatnerTube action. "You know Josh, you could have written me into the new film, just write in that you've brought Kirk back to life. I did it. ITS NOT THAT HARD!". He did too. Terrible books.
Also good to find out theres a great deal of tension between him and George Tekai, who didn't invite Shatner to the wedding between him and his life-partner.
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 08:45
by Mobiesque
Oh and....
http://rapidshare.com/files/158020878/W ... s.mp3.html
I'll also dig around and find 'William Shatner - Hamlet's Soliloquay'
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 09:45
by lol-o-caust
I heard Shat was invited, but didn't go?
Either way, he's a legend.
Or a bell-end, depending on your handling of sarcasm.
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 11:47
by General Tso s Chicken
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 11:53
by Mobiesque
Has Been. Its a GREAT album (for what it is). Done with Ben Folds. He does a cover of Blur's 'Common People' and its charming, because he would never profess to doing a singing chorus. Also, a duet with Henry Rollins that rules.
But really, noone finds solace in a world where real academics find time to toy with the fact they can write a sound essay solely on the premise that they know essay structure and dig star trek?
2 When the Body Speaks
Deanna Troi's Tenuous Authority and the Rationalization of Federation Superiority in Star Trek: The Next Generation Rape Narratives
Well colour me lame, but that makes me giggle a lot.
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 12:23
by Grotocult
Mobiesque";p="990255 wrote:Has Been. Its a GREAT album
I agree. That song where he finds his wife dead in the pool, or the other about his estranged daughter are touching in a way you didn't think Shatner had it in him.
Posted: 27 Oct 2008, 19:55
by ReverseEngineer
Shat's also GREAT in Boston Legal.
Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 08:08
by lol-o-caust
Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 08:18
by touchy feely
spock looks like some 18 year old wearing a 'spock' costume from walmart
Posted: 29 Oct 2008, 08:19
by Mobiesque
Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 07:31
by lol-o-caust
Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 07:42
by lol-o-caust
So I take it we're going to do the post-modern thing of hating this film for being made, sneering at the inevitably mixed reviews and go and see it anyway, thus further financing the Hollywood remake engine?

Posted: 30 Oct 2008, 13:21
by General Tso s Chicken
Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 09:31
by The Rambam
Dude, that's gayer than you!
Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 09:37
by Mobiesque
Mr John Vista";p="990945 wrote:So I take it we're going to do the post-modern thing of hating this film for being made, sneering at the inevitably mixed reviews and go and see it anyway, thus further financing the Hollywood remake engine?

I don't quite get the 'post-modern' nature of me hating everything I've heard about this film (Is hating Peeping Tom post-modern? no, it just shows a little fucking taste). Probably won't be seeing it till it's on telly and won't be reading reviews, positive or negative, with any preconceptions in mind (though I'll spit on the tv as soon as I see E! talking about how hot the cast is). I don't exactly have trusted Star Trek reviewers I rely on to be the voice of reason
From looking at Enterprise, which granted wasn't sexy, but was definitely a shift from the standard - Including the power ballad intro song (shit, voyager was 'in the spirit' but still sucked), it just seems to be that control over the content has shifted from the long-timers to those that want to 'put their own spin' on the Trek Universe. And it is just that, a self-contained universe. Theres plenty of space to expand on the theme and the ideas, but it looks like this is just going to be very loosely based on character names, ship designs and race names from the hundreds of hours of shows / thousands of books that have all built upon a shared base concept. It may be a geeky point of view, but it's one that has been long respected. It is all based on what Gene Rodenbery's original concept contained. Shit, Klingon has been a real language since ST4. If there are Klingon's in the new movie I bet guts to garters that they're just speaking Arabic.
This has been carried on by several others (backstage) who have held up ideals about the direction of the show. Somehow I doubt we'll see names like Herman Zimmerman, Michael Okuda and many of the major writers who have been assisting on the shows and movies (and writing the best of the novels) on the credits to this film.
Nothing post-modern about my hate for this film at all. This is pure, geeky, fundamentalist loathing for exploitation of a franchise that should have either died two incarnations ago or should be put away until someone is willing to do it right.
Fuck Star Trek for a new audience.

Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 09:41
by touchy feely
^yeah, what he said^
i give my touchy feely 100% iron clad guarantee that i will not see this, just as a refusal to play along with such transparent oversaturation
star trek needs to go away ENTIRELY for about 10-15 years
Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 10:42
by Dress Barn
My favorite episode of Star Trek was in Next Generation
These different races find pieces to a ancient puzzle that came from the origional lifeform to ever go into space
Everybody wants the other pieces because they think it's a super weapon and it ends up just being a message saying how proud that race is of everybody
Posted: 31 Oct 2008, 11:37
by Busta
*dodges explosion by jumping over Enterprise command deck*
Posted: 18 Nov 2008, 21:12
by touchy feely
Posted: 18 Nov 2008, 21:24
by Busta